#974: Author Michael Lewis returns to talk about his latest book, “Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State,” which offers an inside look at the early days of Elon Musk’s DOGE. Lewis shares stories about several dedicated public workers who tried to maintain nonpartisan government operations while their agencies were being gutted.
0:00 - Michael Lewis on his books and audiobook rights
3:40 - Why DOGE was doomed, curiosity vs. contempt, Musk, and Congress
7:53 - Why Lewis told the story through civil servants
10:33 - The unsung experts, the IRS privacy officer, NIST, and wildfire science
18:49 - What Lewis would have told Musk, and whether spending needs cutting
21:46 - Whose stock rose and fell, and the one takeaway from Blockers
25:35 - Will Blockers become a movie?
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