#880: Neal and Toby chat with The Points Guy (real name: Brian Kelly) about the latest trends in travel, points, and the airline industry. We learn about how Brian created The Points Guy and what he’s learned over the years, and why travel points aren’t dying – they’re evolving. Then why Spirit Airlines ultimately failed and how airlines make more money through their loyalty program vs. airfares. Finally, maybe tourists aren't to blame for overtourism but...the government's?

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Morning Brew Daily, a daily talk show that covers the latest news on business, the economy, and everything else, with Neal Freyman and Toby Howell. Witty, informative and everything you need to start your day. Available on all podcasting platforms and Youtube.